We talk to Wisconsin forager Sam Thayer about food you don’t have to grow. Then, we talk to Rowan Jacobsen, author of the new book “Wild Chocolate: Across the Americas in Search of Cacao’s Soul.”
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Wait, that might not be a weed!
Spring is a great time to look at plants differently. Foraging expert Sam Thayer is with us to tell you what to look for and how to use it.
(Originally aired April 26, 2025.)
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Author of ‘Wild Chocolate’ traces the history of ancient to bespoke cacao
The makers of delicious bean-to-bar chocolate saved wild cacao from extinction. In addition, the movement has helped impoverished communities prosper and reduced Amazon clearcutting. We talk to author Rowan Jacobsen about his new book, “Wild Chocolate: Across the Americas in Search of Cacao’s Soul.”
(Originally aired October 16, 2024.)
Episode Credits
- Jill Nadeau Host
- Sam Thayer Guest
- Rowan Jacobsen Guest
- Lee Rayburn Technical Director
- Jill Nadeau Executive Producer
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